BWWWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAAAA! That's hilarious? OK, really, guys...who invited our friend, Bella? Bill, was it you? Dr. Trevor?

I hate spammers, but that crap is funny. Seriously; GTFO, Bella.

Geez, it's been months. How's everyone been?

LOL. Thanks, Mark!

To be a little more constructive regarding your post, Topher, I'll say this: You've suggested some good ideas, but have you done any investigation into what you are suggesting? The paranormal "field" as a whole gets nailed left and right by groups like CSI/CSICOP (Committee for Skeptical Inquiry, formerly the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal), sometimes for our pseudoscientific claims and other times simply because we fail to truly understand what the hell we're talking about.

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Agreed. The discussion has moved beyond this point.

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If you don't want to go as far as comparing your idea to mini-weather patterns, why did you bring up the microburst in Watts, CA? Solids, liquids and gases following the same laws of physics whether they are associated with weather or not.

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What? It would all sink to the floor.

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Google "specific heat capacity".

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Paranormal cold or hot spots have been reported to range from small (say, a cubic foot or so) to large (like a refrigerator), sometimes reportedly encompassing an entire room or more. Although most hot or cold spots are reported to be suspended in air, they can be associated with inexplicably hot or cold objects. Those that are suspended in air are reported to be either stationary, mobile, or both. The temperature differences of reported hot or cold spots (versus that of the ambient environment) vary by group, location, equipment and various other factors. These reports also vary by what temperature variation is considered significant (five degrees, ten, fifty...even invalid equipment measurements). Some people might be impressed by a two degree change versus baseline, some might want more to substantiate a true temperature variation. The potential normal and proposed paranormal sources of reported hot or cold spots are varied and both require attention. For example, the pool and jacuzzi example mentioned is a concept that is used when trying to debunk a hot or cold spot.

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Absolutely??? Microbursts require massive organization and a critical mass of various meteorological factors to exist. Weather patterns are huge masses of air and moisture, going up miles into the sky where the air is drier and much, much colder! How does a hot or cold spot -- or the extremely small pockets of suspended gas mentioned previously -- relate to microbursts, Topher? How does this relate to smaller environments, like inside a home, even one with turbulent air flow due to central air and a jacked-up fung shui? I mean, I understand the whole idea of swirling eddies of air outside of a main air current (whether it's inside a home or a part of the jet stream), but that doesn't explain the large temperature variations that have been reported with some paranormal events. The maximum and minimum temperature sources for events in a home versus those in a microburst, for example, are worlds apart. I know what you're getting at, Topher, and it's a kick-ass idea, but I don't get the connection. Are you suggesting that mini-weather systems are causing these reported temperature differences? Maybe I'm missing something.

By the way, this really doesn't help with the whole gas-pockets-of-different-constituent-gases-that-retain-or-release-heat-differently-than-normal-air idea. I'd like to hear more about that, too.

Anyway, I Googled "atmospheric temperature phenomena" and not much came up except for two documents on global warming. All I found is that it is rarely used as a proper name; more as a descriptor really, and even then, rarely. Using the name "atmospheric temperature phenomena" would suggest a potential mechanism through which reported paranormal hot or cold spots are created. Considering that a mechanism has yet to be defined -- much less a mechanism for paranormal events that is related to greenhouse gases as is global warming -- it might be a little premature to name our topic that at this time. Furthermore, it is a little more vague than saying "cold spot" or "hot spot" and, technically, not certain if it's more accurate or not. That's just me, though; call it what you will.



The original question was: When it's said that an entity draws "energy" from the environment (for whatever purpose) and a cold spot is created, specifically what type of energy are we referring to?

I see a pareidolic face in the upper-left quadrant of the photo.

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Reserving your spot tomorrow for the Ghost Vigil guest investigation at the Wornall House? Are there still spots available?